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		<title>Comment on Responsive Images: Clown Car Technique by Estelle Weyl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Estelle Weyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Simon-

THe issue is the content security protocol, or CSP, of webkit and moz -- they do not allow assets to import images or scripts. So, the browser, while capable of rendering the images within the SVG, is blocking the SVG from showing.  Because of these security issues, &lt;object&gt; may have to be the solution. still working on it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Simon-</p>
<p>THe issue is the content security protocol, or CSP, of webkit and moz &#8212; they do not allow assets to import images or scripts. So, the browser, while capable of rendering the images within the SVG, is blocking the SVG from showing.  Because of these security issues, &lt;object> may have to be the solution. still working on it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Responsive Images: Clown Car Technique by Simon Wiesmayr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Wiesmayr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great Article. Thanks for sharing this. Unfortunately i cannot the example is not displayed correctly. All i get is the demo without the image. However if i call the SVG image directly (http://www.standardista.com/clowncar/local.svg) it works as expected. I tested it with the latest chrome and firefox. Any idea what&#039;s wrong?

Thx in advance, Simon]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Article. Thanks for sharing this. Unfortunately i cannot the example is not displayed correctly. All i get is the demo without the image. However if i call the SVG image directly (<a href="http://www.standardista.com/clowncar/local.svg" rel="nofollow">http://www.standardista.com/clowncar/local.svg</a>) it works as expected. I tested it with the latest chrome and firefox. Any idea what&#8217;s wrong?</p>
<p>Thx in advance, Simon</p>
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		<title>Comment on Responsive Images: Clown Car Technique by Simon Cox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 14:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Estelle - I did some research and now understand much more about SVG. Having downloaded your Git repository and had a good look at the source code in the examples you put together it all became clear - quite simple realy. This is a very interesting technique - feels like jumping through a hoop to many but I can forsee quite a few advantages. Thank you for writing and sharing the article!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Estelle &#8211; I did some research and now understand much more about SVG. Having downloaded your Git repository and had a good look at the source code in the examples you put together it all became clear &#8211; quite simple realy. This is a very interesting technique &#8211; feels like jumping through a hoop to many but I can forsee quite a few advantages. Thank you for writing and sharing the article!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Responsive Images: Clown Car Technique by Nicolas Hoizey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicolas Hoizey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 09:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is really a clever use of SVG, well done! I hope issues in browsers will be fixed ASAP.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really a clever use of SVG, well done! I hope issues in browsers will be fixed ASAP.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Responsive Images: Clown Car Technique by Simon Cox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 09:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very intersting - the demo clown image shows how this can work very well indeed. However most of us (assumption) don&#039;t know where to start to create SVG images. Can we create them in Photoshop then import them into something else (what?) to create the SVG - how do we add all the media queries, how easy is it to tweek the settings while you are designing the page etc?  What did you use to create the Clown  images? Any links to good primers on creating SVG&#039;s?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very intersting &#8211; the demo clown image shows how this can work very well indeed. However most of us (assumption) don&#8217;t know where to start to create SVG images. Can we create them in Photoshop then import them into something else (what?) to create the SVG &#8211; how do we add all the media queries, how easy is it to tweek the settings while you are designing the page etc?  What did you use to create the Clown  images? Any links to good primers on creating SVG&#8217;s?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Death by 1,000 Cuts by bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Mar 2013 08:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Estelle

We chatted on Twitter, but for the sake of poor souls who don&#039;t use Twitter 24/7:

&quot;For the sake of the post, “She was offended” IS what mattered.&quot; - point taken.

&quot;The first issue is that I find the Venturbeat article “offensive”. - “most of the female folks in tech don’t know how to code (yet)” Yup; I meant that I wish the fictional conversation in that article had actually taken place.

&quot;Under UK law, causing offense such as swearing in the vicinity of a police officer, minor or a shopping precinct is an Offense. Section 5 of the Public order act!&quot; - yes, and it&#039;s entirely stupid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Estelle</p>
<p>We chatted on Twitter, but for the sake of poor souls who don&#8217;t use Twitter 24/7:</p>
<p>&#8220;For the sake of the post, “She was offended” IS what mattered.&#8221; &#8211; point taken.</p>
<p>&#8220;The first issue is that I find the Venturbeat article “offensive”. &#8211; “most of the female folks in tech don’t know how to code (yet)” Yup; I meant that I wish the fictional conversation in that article had actually taken place.</p>
<p>&#8220;Under UK law, causing offense such as swearing in the vicinity of a police officer, minor or a shopping precinct is an Offense. Section 5 of the Public order act!&#8221; &#8211; yes, and it&#8217;s entirely stupid.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Death by 1,000 Cuts by Neha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Mar 2013 08:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you really thing what Adria did was wrong the sue her! Why the underhanded tactics of DDoS attacks. I don&#039;t know how people are justifying the DDoS attack and public discussion of lewd jokes but think a person calling out another for rude behaviour is wrong!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you really thing what Adria did was wrong the sue her! Why the underhanded tactics of DDoS attacks. I don&#8217;t know how people are justifying the DDoS attack and public discussion of lewd jokes but think a person calling out another for rude behaviour is wrong!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Death by 1,000 Cuts by Erik Vorhes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik Vorhes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Mar 2013 05:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s also worth pointing out that in the US, sexual harassment is defined not by intent but by perception. (It&#039;s of course more complicated than that, but in this case, it really does matter that Adria felt uncomfortable because of / was offended by these jokes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also worth pointing out that in the US, sexual harassment is defined not by intent but by perception. (It&#8217;s of course more complicated than that, but in this case, it really does matter that Adria felt uncomfortable because of / was offended by these jokes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Death by 1,000 Cuts by Estelle Weyl</title>
		<link>http://www.standardista.com/death-by-1000-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-113843</link>
		<dc:creator>Estelle Weyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2013 17:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the sake of the post, &quot;She was offended&quot; IS what mattered. 

There are 2 issues with the Venturbeat article as it relates to this post: 1) being offended, and 2) the 1000 cuts. I&#039;ll also take a quick look at offense under UK law.

1)  The first issue is that I find the Venturbeat article &quot;offensive&quot;.

&quot;most of the female folks in tech don’t know how to code (yet)&quot;

But most of the women AND men in tech attending a PyCon conference do know how to code. If it is true that most of the women AND men in tech don&#039;t know how to code yet if you include sales, management, marketing, board members and the cleaning crew.  

Do I have the right to be offended? Yes. While I find it offensive, I am not actually &quot;offended&quot;. Personally, I can only be offended by people I care about or who hold a power position, and even then I am not that easily offended. The statement itself is STILL offensive.  

2) The second issue is the 1,000 cuts.  

I think you&#039;ve missed the point of my post. &quot;It’s tiresome when you’ve heard inappropriate sexual jokes in a professional setting 1,000 times. It’s ‘Death By A Thousand Cuts’. At some point the micro-aggression kills your spirit.&quot;

Reading the venturebeat article, ask yourself, &quot;how tiresome would it be to have to have that conversation every single day, several times a day.&quot; When does it stop being Alice&#039;s job to correct every dumb comment. 

Many will argue it isn&#039;t her job. If that is your argument, anyone can say anything, and those who are easily offended shouldn&#039;t attend. 

In #DongleGate, the bar for offense was low. But, it is not up to me to determine where someone else&#039;s bar is. Sexual innuendo at a professional meeting is inappropriate whether or not anyone thinks it is offensive. At what point do we react? How many times do we react until we give up?

3)  &quot;What is an offense.&quot;

Under UK law, causing offense such as swearing in the vicinity of a police officer, minor or a shopping precinct is an Offense. Section 5 of the Public order act! 

You may or may not know this because you may be privileged enough for this never to happen to you. However, it is widely used in poor neighbourhoods. Enforcing this law is left to the &#039;sensitivites&#039; of the officers. 

Officers are in less affluent areas arresting people for mumbling a swear word in public. Officers stop a person for looking &#039;suspicious&#039; or under stop-and-search laws. The person mumbles &#039;oh fuck&#039;. 

In this scenario, the police are in the power position. They aren&#039;t offended. They do react. The inverse is what happened in our story: The person with no power who was offended grabbed an inkling of power and reacted, perhaps not in the best way, and the internet has destroyed her for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the sake of the post, &#8220;She was offended&#8221; IS what mattered. </p>
<p>There are 2 issues with the Venturbeat article as it relates to this post: 1) being offended, and 2) the 1000 cuts. I&#8217;ll also take a quick look at offense under UK law.</p>
<p>1)  The first issue is that I find the Venturbeat article &#8220;offensive&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;most of the female folks in tech don’t know how to code (yet)&#8221;</p>
<p>But most of the women AND men in tech attending a PyCon conference do know how to code. If it is true that most of the women AND men in tech don&#8217;t know how to code yet if you include sales, management, marketing, board members and the cleaning crew.  </p>
<p>Do I have the right to be offended? Yes. While I find it offensive, I am not actually &#8220;offended&#8221;. Personally, I can only be offended by people I care about or who hold a power position, and even then I am not that easily offended. The statement itself is STILL offensive.  </p>
<p>2) The second issue is the 1,000 cuts.  </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;ve missed the point of my post. &#8220;It’s tiresome when you’ve heard inappropriate sexual jokes in a professional setting 1,000 times. It’s ‘Death By A Thousand Cuts’. At some point the micro-aggression kills your spirit.&#8221;</p>
<p>Reading the venturebeat article, ask yourself, &#8220;how tiresome would it be to have to have that conversation every single day, several times a day.&#8221; When does it stop being Alice&#8217;s job to correct every dumb comment. </p>
<p>Many will argue it isn&#8217;t her job. If that is your argument, anyone can say anything, and those who are easily offended shouldn&#8217;t attend. </p>
<p>In #DongleGate, the bar for offense was low. But, it is not up to me to determine where someone else&#8217;s bar is. Sexual innuendo at a professional meeting is inappropriate whether or not anyone thinks it is offensive. At what point do we react? How many times do we react until we give up?</p>
<p>3)  &#8220;What is an offense.&#8221;</p>
<p>Under UK law, causing offense such as swearing in the vicinity of a police officer, minor or a shopping precinct is an Offense. Section 5 of the Public order act! </p>
<p>You may or may not know this because you may be privileged enough for this never to happen to you. However, it is widely used in poor neighbourhoods. Enforcing this law is left to the &#8216;sensitivites&#8217; of the officers. </p>
<p>Officers are in less affluent areas arresting people for mumbling a swear word in public. Officers stop a person for looking &#8216;suspicious&#8217; or under stop-and-search laws. The person mumbles &#8216;oh fuck&#8217;. </p>
<p>In this scenario, the police are in the power position. They aren&#8217;t offended. They do react. The inverse is what happened in our story: The person with no power who was offended grabbed an inkling of power and reacted, perhaps not in the best way, and the internet has destroyed her for it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Death by 1,000 Cuts by bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2013 13:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I disagree with the statement &quot;She was offended, and that is what matters.&quot;

I agree with Stephen Fry: &quot;It&#039;s now very common to hear people say, &#039;I&#039;m rather offended by that.&#039; As if that gives them certain rights. It&#039;s actually nothing more... than a whine. &#039;I find that offensive.&#039; It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. &#039;I am offended by that.&#039; Well, so fucking what.&quot;

He was talking about people being offended by another&#039;s religious beliefs. But I think it has wider application; no-one has the right not to be offended. Anything, anyone says can potentially offend *someone*.

That said, of course, social norms and acting like grown-ups also matter. This is how I wish it had gone: http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/22/pycon-2013/

And, of course, the comments and tweets that Ms Richards received  after all this went down were despicable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with the statement &#8220;She was offended, and that is what matters.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree with Stephen Fry: &#8220;It&#8217;s now very common to hear people say, &#8216;I&#8217;m rather offended by that.&#8217; As if that gives them certain rights. It&#8217;s actually nothing more&#8230; than a whine. &#8216;I find that offensive.&#8217; It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. &#8216;I am offended by that.&#8217; Well, so fucking what.&#8221;</p>
<p>He was talking about people being offended by another&#8217;s religious beliefs. But I think it has wider application; no-one has the right not to be offended. Anything, anyone says can potentially offend *someone*.</p>
<p>That said, of course, social norms and acting like grown-ups also matter. This is how I wish it had gone: <a href="http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/22/pycon-2013/" rel="nofollow">http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/22/pycon-2013/</a></p>
<p>And, of course, the comments and tweets that Ms Richards received  after all this went down were despicable.</p>
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